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    <title>topic Why is pan-db downloaded? in Cloud NGFW for AWS Discussions</title>
    <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/cloud-ngfw-for-aws-discussions/why-is-pan-db-downloaded/m-p/595899#M446</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello,&amp;nbsp;everyone.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;I'm using only ATP(Advanced Threat Prevention) license for AWS firewall.&lt;BR /&gt;However, I see PAN-DB is continuously being downloaded in system log.&lt;BR /&gt;Why is PAN-DB still being downloaded even though I am not using URL license?&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;I was using pan-os-10.2.8-h5 and tried upgrading to 10.2.11, but the same problem occurred.&lt;/P&gt;
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    <pubDate>Mon, 26 Aug 2024 06:36:19 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>s.seo333111</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2024-08-26T06:36:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Why is pan-db downloaded?</title>
      <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/cloud-ngfw-for-aws-discussions/why-is-pan-db-downloaded/m-p/595899#M446</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello,&amp;nbsp;everyone.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm using only ATP(Advanced Threat Prevention) license for AWS firewall.&lt;BR /&gt;However, I see PAN-DB is continuously being downloaded in system log.&lt;BR /&gt;Why is PAN-DB still being downloaded even though I am not using URL license?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I was using pan-os-10.2.8-h5 and tried upgrading to 10.2.11, but the same problem occurred.&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Aug 2024 06:36:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/cloud-ngfw-for-aws-discussions/why-is-pan-db-downloaded/m-p/595899#M446</guid>
      <dc:creator>s.seo333111</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-08-26T06:36:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why is pan-db downloaded?</title>
      <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/cloud-ngfw-for-aws-discussions/why-is-pan-db-downloaded/m-p/595996#M447</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I think (this is an educated guess, i haven't seen a customer without URL filtering for over a decade) this is due to advanced DNS protection also using part of the URL filtering database to categorize dns lookups&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Aug 2024 23:02:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/cloud-ngfw-for-aws-discussions/why-is-pan-db-downloaded/m-p/595996#M447</guid>
      <dc:creator>reaper</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-08-26T23:02:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why is pan-db downloaded?</title>
      <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/cloud-ngfw-for-aws-discussions/why-is-pan-db-downloaded/m-p/1226262#M459</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;PAN-OS downloads PAN-DB even if you don’t have the URL Filtering license because certain threat prevention features still reference PAN-DB, particularly for ATP-related functions and internal system operations.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Here’s what’s likely going on:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;ATP &amp;amp; Threat Prevention Features:&lt;BR /&gt;Some advanced threat inspection modules check PAN-DB for context (e.g., to assess malicious behavior of URLs or links embedded in traffic).&lt;BR /&gt;Even without URL Filtering enforcement enabled, PAN-OS may still use PAN-DB for backend lookups to improve ATP accuracy.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Automatic System Behavior:&lt;BR /&gt;The URL Filtering feature is enabled by default in some templates or base configs.&lt;BR /&gt;PAN-OS may continue syncing PAN-DB updates even if no active policy is using it—unless you explicitly disable the feature.&lt;BR /&gt;PAN-OS Internal Dependencies:&lt;BR /&gt;PAN-OS 10.x and newer versions are tightly integrated across feature sets, so even "unused" components (like PAN-DB) may get partial updates as dependencies of ATP or WildFire inspection.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You can check whether URL Filtering is truly in use by running:&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;gt; show running security-policy&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;gt; show url-filtering rules&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Also in GUI:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Go to Objects &amp;gt; Security Profiles &amp;gt; URL Filtering&lt;BR /&gt;Check if any profile is assigned to a security policy&lt;BR /&gt;If you see profiles attached to rules—even empty or default ones—it can trigger PAN-DB update behavior.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you're absolutely sure you don’t need PAN-DB:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1.Remove URL Filtering Profiles from all policies.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. Disable PAN-DB from auto-updating (though not directly configurable, you can try limiting its access):&lt;BR /&gt;Block update server access to updates.paloaltonetworks.com for PAN-DB (not ideal if ATP still needs it).&lt;BR /&gt;Or disable the URL Filtering license from Device &amp;gt; Licenses if trial was previously activated (contact support if needed).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;PAN-OS 10.2.8-h5 and 10.2.11 are both stable, but the behavior is consistent across these because it’s design behavior, not a bug.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2025 20:56:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/cloud-ngfw-for-aws-discussions/why-is-pan-db-downloaded/m-p/1226262#M459</guid>
      <dc:creator>fcsexpert</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-04-10T20:56:58Z</dc:date>
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