Expedition v2 recommended VM sizing on ESXi?

Eric_Troldahl — Wed, 27 Sep 2023 18:11:16 GMT

Summary: I want to spin up Expedition v2 with enough resources to migrate 125+ lsys off of Juniper ScreenOS and JunOS, and also have the ability to use Expedition to "Normalize/Optimize/Eliminate" duplicate objects, unused rules, merge nearly duplicate rules in Panorama, or any other benefits it may offer, so I want to make sure I have enough resources on the new VM. I already have a dozen HA Pairs administered through Panorama, and these new migrations will mostly be to a large chassis (PA-5450) that is replacing 5 Juniper HA Pairs on the interior of our network. I think I read somewhere a suggestion of 8 CPUs, 16GB RAM, and 500GB of Storage for Expedition - does that seem like a good recommendation if it is easier to ask once than expand multiple times in the future? Do I need that much storage? Less/More? I don't really plan to keep all of the projects on Expedition forever, and once I get a script that does most of what I need a lot of these will be "Wash, Rinse, Repeat" - including using shared objects, but with so many migrations to do I will need to have multiple projects in storage at a time.

The TL;DR:

I've read througn a LOT of readme, quick start, config PDFs, etc, but... so far no definitive specs for what I should install on that are explicitly stated to be for v2. I am further hampered by the fact that we don't have a Docker expert on the team, so we don't know what we don't know.
I ended up being the lone survivor of a Firewall support team, our documentation on using Expedition usage isn't the best, and I currently have Expedition v1 running with 1 CPU, 2GB RAM, and 40GB of storage, on Ubuntu 16.x LTS. I now have a team that has joined me, soon to be 6 strong, but none of us currently have experience with either version of Expedition.
I have over 130 juniper lsys to migrate to PanOS NGFW on Panorama, and I feel like I'm better off learning the new v2 than dealing with v1 and then having to learn v2 later.
I was originally told by management to just use the current VM to install v2, but I'm thinking I'd be better off spinning up a new VM with reasonable specs and once I get v2 working kill the old VM. Considering the Ubuntu version and the VM specs I can probably sell this concept if I have a solid configuration recommendation.

Re: Expedition v2 recommended VM sizing on ESXi?

dpuigdomenec — Thu, 28 Sep 2023 10:42:38 GMT

Hello @Eric_Troldahl,

I appreciate you reaching out and providing such a comprehensive explanation of your present circumstances and objectives.

I concur with your suggestion that the optimal course of action would be to establish a new, up-to-date OS environment for Expedition2.

You have the option to install the docker engine on a variety of platforms. You can find the relevant information here: https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/

Expedition2 has multi-user support, enabling you to create a singular environment for your entire team. Alternatively, you could install Expedition2 locally for each team member. However, I would advise against having multiple users working on the same project simultaneously due to potential issues with concurrency.

As for resource requirements, you could use those defined for Expedition1 as a starting point (refer to the document here: https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/expedition-articles/expedition-documentation/ta-p/215619?attachment-id=11295). Since Expedition2 operates over containers, you have the flexibility to increase the allocated resources based on the size of your project and the number of concurrent users/automations.

Please take a moment to review the manual attached to the shared Google drive folder and feel free to share your insights to enhance it.

I believe I've addressed all of your queries, but should you have any further questions or suggestions, don't hesitate to email us at fwmigrate@paloaltonetworks.com.

Best regards,

David

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