topic Re: TLS Renegotiation in GlobalProtect Discussions

TLS Renegotiation

ChrisCampbell1 — Tue, 22 Sep 2020 21:27:30 GMT

I work for a DoD agency and they are starting to really crack down on TLS Renegotiation. They are stating that we need to "disable insecure renegotiation: Secure Server not supported" or the offending application will be shutdown. Our GlobalProtect VPN would be denied access from clients

I have opened a case with tech support and they are stating that TLS renegotiation is not a feature of Palo Alto. They are not able to produce any documents supporting that argument so I can present it to the DoD agency threatening to turn off what would be our GlobalProtect VPN.

I have run packet captures and I see the client hello with "Cipher Suite: TLS_EMPTY_RENEGOTIATION_INFO_SCSV (0x00ff)" and "Extension: renegotiation_info (len=1)". This means the client is requesting a secure renegotiation. Per RFC 5746, the server should or Palo Alto should abort the handshake if it is not capable of secure renegotiation. I do not see the Palo Alto trying to abort the handshake but possibly ignoring it since the conversations keep going. My assumption is that if it does not understand renegotiation, it would not know what to do with the flag.

I am under the gun to find out since we would need to look for another VPN solution if Palo Alto does allow TLS renegotiation. In addition, it is unknown when they implement TLS 1.3 for GlobalProtect.

Does anyone have an idea on what to look for in a packet capture or what they did to overcome this problem with TLS renegotiation and GlobalProtect?

Re: TLS Renegotiation

bit_byte — Tue, 26 Oct 2021 18:56:29 GMT

Hi @ChrisCampbell1

Did you get your answer regarding secure renegotiation ?

Are there any current versions of PAN-OS that support secure renegotiation?
Inbound decryption SERVER-INITIATED Secure Renegotiation IS NOT supported.
Secure Renegotiatio---->Not supported ACTION NEEDED (more info)
Secure Client-Initiated Renegotiation---- >No

From palo alto side is it possible to configure support secure renegotiation ?

Thanks

if it is feature request then can you please provide me FR numbe

Re: TLS Renegotiation

David.Boggs — Wed, 15 Dec 2021 17:34:16 GMT

Following - this is definitely a short-coming for a security vendor

Re: TLS Renegotiation

CFedson — Mon, 13 Feb 2023 16:08:45 GMT

Still nothing. Seems this would be a bigger issue to fix for them.

Re: TLS Renegotiation

Melvin — Tue, 14 Mar 2023 08:51:51 GMT

Same Issue for my Rocky9 Client with Openssl v3 @CFedson did u try the new PAN-OS 11 that was launched on 1th March? I will give it a try and give u an update if this fixed it.

Re: TLS Renegotiation

CFedson — Tue, 14 Mar 2023 14:17:36 GMT

We are still on 10.1 but if it is fixed on 11, that might be a good reason to push. Thanks

Re: TLS Renegotiation

Aworriors — Wed, 12 Apr 2023 07:58:58 GMT

Any findings so far on it?

Re: TLS Renegotiation

Melvin — Wed, 12 Apr 2023 08:03:38 GMT

So we didn't update to the 11 OS. what i did is to use the openconnect Client for Linux with the Network Manager extension.

I would come back when we have updated to 11 OS.