<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#" xmlns:taxo="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/taxonomy/" version="2.0">
  <channel>
    <title>topic Re: Paloalto firewall google drive blocking -- quic based problem in Next-Generation Firewall Discussions</title>
    <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/next-generation-firewall/paloalto-firewall-google-drive-blocking-quic-based-problem/m-p/1235269#M6153</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;If the browser caches the QUIC session, can the browser or user still open pages via QUIC even if we block it through the firewall?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2025 03:56:32 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>OrkhanM</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-08-04T03:56:32Z</dc:date>
    <item>
      <title>Paloalto firewall google drive blocking -- quic based problem</title>
      <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/next-generation-firewall/paloalto-firewall-google-drive-blocking-quic-based-problem/m-p/1233144#M6052</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Hello,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;We are experiencing an issue with blocking Google Drive access through Palo Alto Firewall despite applying several mitigation steps.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Current Setup:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;SSL Decryption is enabled and functioning.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Security policies and URL filtering are configured to block:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;drive.google.com&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;drive.google*&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;*.drive.google.com&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;*.google.com (selectively for Drive-related services)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;App-ID blocking for google-drive-web, google-docs-base, etc., is also in place.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Issue:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Some users are still able to access &lt;A href="https://drive.google.com" target="_blank"&gt;https://drive.google.com&lt;/A&gt; even after all blocking measures.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;This seems to happen due to browser caching — once the cache is cleared, Drive becomes inaccessible, as expected.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;However, clearing the cache manually is not a sustainable or correct solution.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Observations:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Even after applying SSL decryption, we still see App-ID: quic and Service: udp/443 in the Traffic logs for Google domains.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;In some cases, no traffic is visible at all in the firewall logs related to that access, making it difficult to track or block reliably.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;This suggests the session might be:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Encrypted and undetected due to session reuse or early QUIC negotiation,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Or being misidentified or missed entirely by App-ID before it can be classified.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Questions:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;OL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Is there a reliable method to prevent access to drive.google.com even when cached, without impacting other Google services?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;How can we ensure QUIC sessions are correctly inspected or blocked only for Drive, without affecting other QUIC-based services?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Could this behavior be due to Chrome QUIC session resumption or preloading even after SSL decryption is enabled?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Any guidance or best practices from the community would be greatly appreciated.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Thanks in advance.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2025 13:37:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/next-generation-firewall/paloalto-firewall-google-drive-blocking-quic-based-problem/m-p/1233144#M6052</guid>
      <dc:creator>OrkhanM</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-07-03T13:37:22Z</dc:date>
    </item>
    <item>
      <title>Re: Paloalto firewall google drive blocking -- quic based problem</title>
      <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/next-generation-firewall/paloalto-firewall-google-drive-blocking-quic-based-problem/m-p/1233275#M6053</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1097754153"&gt;@OrkhanM&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;QUIC needs to be disabled, as recommended by PAN.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;PAN-OS cannot decrypt the traffic so you either have the option of blocking outbound QUIC traffic on your network (usually by simply blocking udp/443 and not just blocking the app-id) or you need to block it in all approved browsers. Personally I would recommend taking both paths so you don't force the browser to attempt to utilize QUIC and get blocked at the network level and fallback.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2025 05:12:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/next-generation-firewall/paloalto-firewall-google-drive-blocking-quic-based-problem/m-p/1233275#M6053</guid>
      <dc:creator>BPry</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-07-04T05:12:05Z</dc:date>
    </item>
    <item>
      <title>Re: Paloalto firewall google drive blocking -- quic based problem</title>
      <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/next-generation-firewall/paloalto-firewall-google-drive-blocking-quic-based-problem/m-p/1235269#M6153</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If the browser caches the QUIC session, can the browser or user still open pages via QUIC even if we block it through the firewall?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2025 03:56:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/next-generation-firewall/paloalto-firewall-google-drive-blocking-quic-based-problem/m-p/1235269#M6153</guid>
      <dc:creator>OrkhanM</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-04T03:56:32Z</dc:date>
    </item>
  </channel>
</rss>

