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    <title>topic Re: Palo Alto User Agent ID Services Failing intermittently in General Topics</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi &lt;a href="https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/11943"&gt;@kiwi&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;// Team&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Since, we were seeing "&lt;SPAN&gt;[Error 618]:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;st-&amp;gt;buf[st-&amp;gt;index], sizeof(st-&amp;gt;buf[st-&amp;gt;index]))() failed" -&lt;/STRONG&gt;- we increased the&amp;nbsp;WMI services memory and still seeing the services to be stopped intermittently.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;We took the Verbose logs as indicated but the only errors we see is:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;01/11/23 17:10:32:480[Debug 245]: tid 4660: Wmi connect to server x.x.x.x failed with error 0x80070005&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;01/11/23 17:10:32:480[Debug 90]: tid 4660: Probing IP x.x.x.x with WMI failed.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;The services works fine if we restart the process.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thus as per the best practice, I would like to know &lt;STRONG&gt;what does disabling WMI probing do for us in regards to User-ID&lt;/STRONG&gt;, group mapping and ip-user mapping?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I want to make sure we don't break our User-ID mapping because we have policies that use AD group mapping.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks&lt;BR /&gt;Utkarsh Kumar&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2023 13:17:48 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>UtkarshKumar</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-01-16T13:17:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Palo Alto User Agent ID Services Failing intermittently</title>
      <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/palo-alto-user-agent-id-services-failing-intermittently/m-p/524488#M108524</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;We have 2 User ID agents on 2 different windows servers. Both User-ID agents' services are getting hung up and requiring manual intervention of services being stopped and started after couple of days. The issue has progressively been getting worse as well. This is causing group mapping to intermittently fail. We have upgraded the gateways to the latest version&amp;nbsp;PAN-OS 9.1.15 as well but this is still the same. (User-id agent&amp;nbsp;Version 9.1.1-8 and 9.1.4-104)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Checking the &lt;STRONG&gt;user-id agent logs&lt;/STRONG&gt; we see:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;[Debug 245]: tid 11604: Wmi connect to server x.x.x.x failed with error 0x800706ba&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;tid 12880: NetBIOS user enumeration error for x.x.x.x - The network path was not found.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;tid 13252: Probing IP 172.28.1.56 with WMI failed.&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;tid 13252: NetBIOS user enumeration error for x.x.x.x - The network path was not found.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;[Error 618]: &lt;STRONG&gt;st-&amp;gt;buf[st-&amp;gt;index], sizeof(st-&amp;gt;buf[st-&amp;gt;index]))() failed&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;[Error 175]: Failed to compose log msg with 68 logs. error -17&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;[Error 434]: Failed to compose ip-users msg with 31 add 0 delete. error -17&lt;BR /&gt;12/16/22 12:55:49:598[Debug 3693]: Device thread 16 handle msg get:user_ip. bodylen 97 xml 1&lt;BR /&gt;12/16/22 12:55:49:598[Debug 439]: Composed ip-users msg with 31 add and 0 delete.&lt;BR /&gt;12/16/22 12:55:49:598[Error 190]: &lt;STRONG&gt;SSL write error: 1-10054!&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;From &lt;STRONG&gt;firewall&lt;/STRONG&gt; at the same time from &lt;STRONG&gt;user-id logs&lt;/STRONG&gt; we see:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Error: pan_user_id_agent_uia_proc_v5(pan_user_id_uia_v5.c:1254): pan_user_id_agent_send_and_recv_msgs() failed for UCMSFTPDC1(1)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-0600 Error: pan_user_id_agent_send_and_recv_msgs(pan_user_id_agent.c:3177): pan_user_msgs_recv() failed&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Error: pan_ssl_writen_ext(pan_ssl_utils.c:1288): SSL :error:00000000:lib(0):func(0):reason(0)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Error: pan_user_msg_buf_sendout(pan_user_msg.c:1097): pan_ssl_writen(295) failed&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Does this indicate any memory issues on the user agent side? What can we do to further resolve the issue. We do not want to manually restart the services every time on user-id agent.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks in advance.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2022 19:54:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/palo-alto-user-agent-id-services-failing-intermittently/m-p/524488#M108524</guid>
      <dc:creator>UtkarshKumar</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-12-19T19:54:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Palo Alto User Agent ID Services Failing intermittently</title>
      <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/palo-alto-user-agent-id-services-failing-intermittently/m-p/524573#M108533</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi &lt;a href="https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/240639"&gt;@UtkarshKumar&lt;/a&gt; ,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you haven't done so already then I'd recommend increasing the UID debug level on the agent and FW to get more verbose logging:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://knowledgebase.paloaltonetworks.com/KCSArticleDetail?id=kA10g000000ClR1CAK" target="_blank"&gt;https://knowledgebase.paloaltonetworks.com/KCSArticleDetail?id=kA10g000000ClR1CAK&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you are using the UID-agent to parse the AD security event logs, syslog messages or the XML-API to obtain UID-mappings it is strongly recommended to &lt;STRONG&gt;disable WMI probing&lt;/STRONG&gt;:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://docs.paloaltonetworks.com/pan-os/11-0/pan-os-admin/user-id/map-ip-addresses-to-users/configure-user-mapping-using-the-windows-user-id-agent/configure-the-windows-based-user-id-agent-for-user-mapping#id4ca6e511-47b4-4f65-ba87-381392077945" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;configure-the-windows-based-user-id-agent-for-user-mapping&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hope this helps,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-Kiwi.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2022 10:08:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/palo-alto-user-agent-id-services-failing-intermittently/m-p/524573#M108533</guid>
      <dc:creator>kiwi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-12-20T10:08:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Palo Alto User Agent ID Services Failing intermittently</title>
      <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/palo-alto-user-agent-id-services-failing-intermittently/m-p/524600#M108538</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/240639"&gt;@UtkarshKumar&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I hope you have checked the basic &lt;A href="https://docs.paloaltonetworks.com/pan-os/9-1/user-id-agent-release-notes/user-id-agent-9-1-release-information/operating-system-compatibility#:~:text=The%20User%2DID%20agent%20is,Palo%20Alto%20Networks%20Compatibility%20Matrix." target="_self"&gt;compatibility matrix&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;for the sanity check.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Can you also let us know if you connection between the UID-Agent and Firewall is in 'connected' status or is that broken?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;From the logs, this seems similar to a SSL issue. Have you referred to the KB which explains the &lt;A href="https://knowledgebase.paloaltonetworks.com/KCSArticleDetail?id=kA10g000000ClbiCAC" target="_self"&gt;SSL connection issue between the UID and firewall?&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;And as&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/11943"&gt;@kiwi&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;mentioned, we should also obtain the verbose level logs to understand the issue further.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Regards,&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2022 14:24:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/palo-alto-user-agent-id-services-failing-intermittently/m-p/524600#M108538</guid>
      <dc:creator>Arnesh</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-12-20T14:24:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Palo Alto User Agent ID Services Failing intermittently</title>
      <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/palo-alto-user-agent-id-services-failing-intermittently/m-p/526991#M108902</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi &lt;a href="https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/11943"&gt;@kiwi&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;// Team&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Since, we were seeing "&lt;SPAN&gt;[Error 618]:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;st-&amp;gt;buf[st-&amp;gt;index], sizeof(st-&amp;gt;buf[st-&amp;gt;index]))() failed" -&lt;/STRONG&gt;- we increased the&amp;nbsp;WMI services memory and still seeing the services to be stopped intermittently.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;We took the Verbose logs as indicated but the only errors we see is:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;01/11/23 17:10:32:480[Debug 245]: tid 4660: Wmi connect to server x.x.x.x failed with error 0x80070005&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;01/11/23 17:10:32:480[Debug 90]: tid 4660: Probing IP x.x.x.x with WMI failed.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;The services works fine if we restart the process.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thus as per the best practice, I would like to know &lt;STRONG&gt;what does disabling WMI probing do for us in regards to User-ID&lt;/STRONG&gt;, group mapping and ip-user mapping?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I want to make sure we don't break our User-ID mapping because we have policies that use AD group mapping.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks&lt;BR /&gt;Utkarsh Kumar&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2023 13:17:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/palo-alto-user-agent-id-services-failing-intermittently/m-p/526991#M108902</guid>
      <dc:creator>UtkarshKumar</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-01-16T13:17:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Palo Alto User Agent ID Services Failing intermittently</title>
      <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/palo-alto-user-agent-id-services-failing-intermittently/m-p/1243175#M125651</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;We are experiencing recurring issues where the Palo Alto Networks &lt;STRONG&gt;User-ID Agent service crashes or stops running on our Domain Controller&lt;/STRONG&gt;. We currently rely on manual restarts. Is there a documented, long-term solution or best practice guidance available to ensure the service remains stable and prevents these unscheduled stops?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2025 18:35:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/palo-alto-user-agent-id-services-failing-intermittently/m-p/1243175#M125651</guid>
      <dc:creator>S.SuggsMorales</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-12-04T18:35:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Palo Alto User Agent ID Services Failing intermittently</title>
      <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/palo-alto-user-agent-id-services-failing-intermittently/m-p/1243482#M125669</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1517033317"&gt;@S.SuggsMorales&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The topic being several years old I suspect you might be running into a different issue but the initial troubleshooting remains the same ...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you have verified the permissions and are running the latest version, the next step is to increase the debug level of the agent and check the UaDebug.log file to identify the precise system error (e.g., WMI connection failure, memory buffer issue) that is causing the service to exit.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Kind regards,&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2025 15:03:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/palo-alto-user-agent-id-services-failing-intermittently/m-p/1243482#M125669</guid>
      <dc:creator>kiwi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-12-09T15:03:25Z</dc:date>
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