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PA-3420 will not detect SFPs on any port

Adrian_Jensen — Mon, 08 Jan 2024 23:46:04 GMT

My backup PA-3420 in an HA peer will not detect SFPs or link on any port (including copper) but the management. The primary unit detects and links on multiple SFP slots with multiple different SFP types and brands. The same SFPs in the backup unit will not detect.

adrian.admin@PA_CorpEdge_A(active)> show system state | match sys.s1.p13.capability\|sys.s1.p13.phy sys.s1.p13.capability: [ auto, 1Gb/s-full, 10Gb/s-full, ] sys.s1.p13.phy: { 'duration': 3600, 'last-sample': 2024-01-08 15:24:27, 'link-partner': { }, 'media': SFP-Plus-Fiber, 'sfp': { 'ch1': { 'rx-power': 0.00 mW, 'tx-bias': 5.82 mA, 'tx-power': 0.60 mW, }, 'connector': LC, 'diagnostic-monitor': Yes, 'encoding': Reserved, 'ex-spec-compliance-code': 0x0, 'identifier': SFP, 'link-len-km': 0 km, 'link-len-m': 0 m, 'link-len-om1': 30 m, 'link-len-om2': 80 m, 'link-len-om3': 300 m, 'link-len-om4': 0 m, 'rx-power-alarm-hi': 2.00 mW, 'rx-power-alarm-lo': 0.03 mW, 'rx-power-warn-hi': 0.79 mW, 'rx-power-warn-lo': 0.03 mW, 'supply-voltage': 3.32 V, 'temp-alarm-hi': 85.00 C, 'temp-alarm-lo': -5.00 C, 'temp-warn-hi': 80.00 C, 'temp-warn-lo': 0.00 C, 'temperature': 26.48 C, 'transceiver': 10000B-SR, 'tx-bias-alarm-hi': 10.50 mA, 'tx-bias-alarm-lo': 2.50 mA, 'tx-bias-warn-hi': 10.50 mA, 'tx-bias-warn-lo': 2.50 mA, 'tx-power-alarm-hi': 2.00 mW, 'tx-power-alarm-lo': 0.13 mW, 'tx-power-warn-hi': 0.79 mW, 'tx-power-warn-lo': 0.32 mW, 'vendor-name': AVAGO , 'vendor-part-number': AFBR-709SMZ-NA1 , 'vendor-part-rev': G4.1, 'vendor-serial-number': AA1723300NG , 'voltage-alarm-hi': 3.60 V, 'voltage-alarm-lo': 3.00 V, 'voltage-warn-hi': 3.46 V, 'voltage-warn-lo': 3.13 V, }, 'type': Ethernet, } peer.sys.s1.p13.capability: [ auto, 1Gb/s-full, 10Gb/s-full, ] peer.sys.s1.p13.phy: { 'link-partner': { }, 'media': SFP-Plus-Empty, 'type': Ethernet, }

Am I missing something obvious here or is my backup unit broken?

Re: PA-3420 will not detect SFPs on any port

Adrian_Jensen — Tue, 09 Jan 2024 00:13:19 GMT

OK... emergency averted... So apparently this is "by design" and seems completely broken-by-design to me. By default, in an HA pair, the backup unit will not initialize or link on any port, copper or SFP, when in a standby state. That means you have no way of knowing if the cables are connected or the SFP works, until the unit becomes the active unit of the HA pair... If also means you have no way of monitoring port status via network management (i.e. WhatsUp/OpenNMS/etc., did someone yank the wrong cable in the last 3 months?) and failing over will take longer because the links have to all initialize/come up before any failover can take place (flap prevention on the far side).

The fix is to go Device -> High Availability -> General -> Active/Passive Settings, and change Passive Link State from "Shutdown" to "Auto" on all the HA members.

Re: PA-3420 will not detect SFPs on any port

Brandon_Wertz — Tue, 09 Jan 2024 14:47:28 GMT

" So apparently this is "by design" and seems completely broken-by-design to me. "

It's not a bad design. You even mentioned in your final statement you can chose how the firewall behaves. You have the option to had down the passive firewall dataplane interfaces or to have them be in an up state.

Re: PA-3420 will not detect SFPs on any port

BPry — Tue, 09 Jan 2024 22:03:27 GMT

@Adrian_Jensen,

Just echoing what @Brandon_Wertz mentioned, but it's also the safer default setting that will work for everyone regardless of how they setup their device. It's often not the ideal configuration depending on your configuration, in fact I'd go as far as to say in most cases it isn't ideal, but it is the safest default option to set for everyone.