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hard disk specification??

willstech — Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:14:47 GMT

Hi all.

I’d like to know hard disk specification of every each PA appliances (include PA 5000 series).

What I want is a below.

hard disk size

Number of hard disk

HDD RAID configuration level

Also let me know, if you have more useful information about HDD.

Thanks.

Eugene.

Re: hard disk specification??

nrice — Tue, 29 Mar 2011 20:47:06 GMT

Hi Eugene,

With the exception of the 5000-series all devices have one 160GB hard drive. None of the devices use a RAID configuration. The 5000-series ships with one 120GB Solid State Drive, but a second can be added. 120GB or 240GB SSDs may be purchased and both must be the same size.

Re: hard disk specification??

kbrazil — Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:19:18 GMT

One point of clarification - when you add a second SSD hard drive of the same size to a PA-5000 device it automatically becomes mirrored in a RAID 1 configuration.

Cheers,

Kelly

Re: hard disk specification??

willstech — Wed, 30 Mar 2011 07:56:38 GMT

Thanks for your answer.

I have more question about that.

If hard disk should fail, PA will stop and lead to networks trouble.

Don’t have any way to avoid network trouble when disk failed?

is it possible to order two disks with in RAID 1?(including all of products that PA500, 2000, 4000 and 5000)

Or do I need to purchase by voluntarily to avoid disk fail?

Thanks,

Eugene.

Re: hard disk specification??

nrice — Wed, 30 Mar 2011 16:01:52 GMT

While the PA-5000 series ships with one drive, it is possible to order an additional drive, which as Kelly explained, will create a RAID 1. You can order an additional 120 GB or upgrade both to 240GB. There is no RAID option for the PA-2000 series but it is possible to order a spare drive to have on hand in the event of a failure in a production unit. It is not possible to purchase drives for the PA-500 or PA-4000 series devices as they are not customer swappable, and a drive failure will result in the RMA of the entire unit.

Re: hard disk specification??

willstech — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 05:40:18 GMT

Hello nrice.

Thanks for your answer.

I have one more question about your answer.

You said that it is possible to order another disk for PA 2000 series.

If I order for existing customer, is it possible to extend disk configuration?

For example, current PA just has a 160G disk and I order one more 160G disk for PA 2000 series. Is it possible to extend with 320G for log???

I mean, it is possible to put together from 2 disks of 160G?

Please let me know how can I extend two disk for save log, If it possible.

And if it is impossible, how can I use spare disk??

It is only available to replace from failed disk to spare disk?

Regards,

Eugene.

Re: hard disk specification??

nrice — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:49:34 GMT

You can't increase the drive size in the 2000 series devices and the spare is to be used only as a replacement in the event of a drive failure. You may want to look into using Panorama for log storage or using syslog forwarding to a third party system.

Re: hard disk specification??

samsk — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 02:15:23 GMT

Hi,

The original 160GB hard disk can store how many days reports maximum?

Re: hard disk specification??

nrice — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:24:26 GMT

The number of days would depend on the size of the logs. The logs fill the disk and when nearly full, the PAN deletes the older logs. You can check the current log size with the command >show system logdb-quota.

Re: hard disk specification??

dieter_b — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:52:09 GMT

Slightly off topic, but hard disk related: If the hard disk in a PA were replaced by a SSD, would it boot faster ? Would it commit faster ?

Can I swap hard disks easily or are they prepared with a special formatting ?

Re: hard disk specification??

skrall — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:26:27 GMT

First of all, the HDD is not a field replaceable unit. You would void your warranty. Second of all we have multiple partitions on the box and no utility for you to recreate the file structure. Some new firewall product lines will ship with SSD in an attempt to improve reliability by removing any moving parts and going entirely solid state. But the existing product lines will retain the HDD. The speed issues you are dealing with are moreJava related than Disk IO.

Steve Krall

Re: hard disk specification??

juice3 — Wed, 18 Jul 2012 22:11:57 GMT

Skrall,

On the PA5060, the unit ships with the OCZ Deneva Drives. We've had two failures and they are field replaceable using the overnight (from PA) drive.

Re: hard disk specification??

mikand — Wed, 18 Jul 2012 22:56:33 GMT

How come the HDD/SSD's being used isnt larger (but partitioned smaller for enhanced endurance regarding SSD's)?

Im thinking of (given current prices) Samsung 830 256GB or 512GB looks interresting.

Or for 3.5" solutions then Western Digital Red SOHO 3TB?

There is an ongoing endurance test being runned at SSD Write Endurance 25nm Vs 34nm - Page 198 to find out how different brands behaves (some Intel SSD have already failed).

Re: hard disk specification??

juice3 — Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:57:16 GMT

I have heard from various sales reps that not purchasing the (Palo Alto Part #) OCZ Drives from a Palo Alto vendor may void the warranty of the system. However with the "street" value of SSD's has dropped significantly. I'd like to put some 265GB Vertex 4's in the system(s) we have to get the commit's down to sub 30 seconds.