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    <title>topic UserID periodic empty groups issue in General Topics</title>
    <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/userid-periodic-empty-groups-issue/m-p/1239853#M125323</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;after opening a ticket with the support and finally after 4 debug sessions over a month time. I wanted to share our issue we encountered, and maybe it could help somebody with the same issue.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Symptom : Every hour, we had our UserID based policy not working any more for around 3-4min every hour and on Commit from Panorama. Very odd.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;After time, we discovered that during the bug, the Groups were empty (not any users any more)&lt;BR /&gt;show user group name "cn=xxx,ou=security group,dc=xxx,dc=local"&lt;BR /&gt;Group-Mapping was linked to LDAP profile to the Windows Domain Controller.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The issue was that we had two groups under "User Identification / Group Mappings Settings"&lt;BR /&gt;One had only one specific Included Groups&lt;BR /&gt;And the second one, had was created with "&lt;SPAN&gt;Search Filter" and was returning 4 groups.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;And the issue lied that both had the same group.&lt;BR /&gt;One would think it's not an issue, but it was. I'm still trying to push the support to report it to Engineering, but I least I've documented here.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;My resolution, was to delete the 1st as it was included in the second, and no more issues &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":confused_face:"&gt;😕&lt;/span&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2025 12:44:47 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Frank-Bussink</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-10-10T12:44:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>UserID periodic empty groups issue</title>
      <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/userid-periodic-empty-groups-issue/m-p/1239853#M125323</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;after opening a ticket with the support and finally after 4 debug sessions over a month time. I wanted to share our issue we encountered, and maybe it could help somebody with the same issue.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Symptom : Every hour, we had our UserID based policy not working any more for around 3-4min every hour and on Commit from Panorama. Very odd.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;After time, we discovered that during the bug, the Groups were empty (not any users any more)&lt;BR /&gt;show user group name "cn=xxx,ou=security group,dc=xxx,dc=local"&lt;BR /&gt;Group-Mapping was linked to LDAP profile to the Windows Domain Controller.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The issue was that we had two groups under "User Identification / Group Mappings Settings"&lt;BR /&gt;One had only one specific Included Groups&lt;BR /&gt;And the second one, had was created with "&lt;SPAN&gt;Search Filter" and was returning 4 groups.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;And the issue lied that both had the same group.&lt;BR /&gt;One would think it's not an issue, but it was. I'm still trying to push the support to report it to Engineering, but I least I've documented here.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;My resolution, was to delete the 1st as it was included in the second, and no more issues &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":confused_face:"&gt;😕&lt;/span&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2025 12:44:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/userid-periodic-empty-groups-issue/m-p/1239853#M125323</guid>
      <dc:creator>Frank-Bussink</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-10-10T12:44:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: UserID periodic empty groups issue</title>
      <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/userid-periodic-empty-groups-issue/m-p/1239859#M125326</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/286820"&gt;@Frank-Bussink&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks for sharing your experience !&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Kind regards,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-Kim.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2025 14:19:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/userid-periodic-empty-groups-issue/m-p/1239859#M125326</guid>
      <dc:creator>kiwi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-10-10T14:19:36Z</dc:date>
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