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Newly registered domains - how does PANDB classify them?

networkadmin — Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:50:02 GMT

I'm not really sure how to title this one but here goes

A great many of the links in cryptolocker/zeuss type stuff links to domains that are brand new, yet quite a few of them seem to be in PAN-DB in categories like "Shopping" or "Business and Economy".

If I go out tomorrow and register a domain, presumably at that point it's "Unknown".

What's the process by which it ends up in a given category in PANDB please?

http://whois.domaintools.com/yoyosasa.com

http://whois.domaintools.com/wawamediana.com

http://whois.domaintools.com/qoweiuwea.com

http://whois.domaintools.com/khalisimilisi.com

http://whois.domaintools.com/dominikanabestplace.com

http://whois.domaintools.com/yaroshwelcome.com

As some examples of recent stuff.

Re: Newly registered domains - how does PANDB classify them?

hshah — Thu, 26 Jun 2014 20:26:46 GMT

Please refer following document to submit URL change request for PAN-DB.

How to Submit a Mis-Categorized URL for PAN-DB

Re: Newly registered domains - how does PANDB classify them?

HULK — Thu, 26 Jun 2014 20:34:36 GMT

Hello Networkadmin,

If there is a new domain and PAN-DB database doesn't have that information, it will send a query to the cloud and cloud will update to the PAN FW'.

For example:If there is a new domain cretead today as abcd.com, immedeately the PAN firewall will categorize as "unknown", but as soon as it will send a query and get the correct category information it will update it's data-base.

Thanks

Re: Newly registered domains - how does PANDB classify them?

dyang — Thu, 26 Jun 2014 23:31:15 GMT

Hi networkadmin,

Generally speaking, for non-malware related URLs, PAN-DB will crawl and categorize domains as we see them. This can happen either because our crawler has found a new site, someone has submitted a change request for an unknown site, or because a customer device queried our servers for that URL. As HULK mentioned above, once we see an unknown on our servers, we will put that in a prioritized queue for crawling and classification. Once we determine a category, it will get included in the next database refresh.

For malware domains, PAN-DB will categorize a URL/IP as malware as long as WildFire has associated it with malicious activity. Regarding the Cryptolocker lists published by the FBI/Infragard, we do subscribe to such lists, and we will create threat signatures around them, as well as feed the domains/IPs listed into PAN-DB. For those malware families that utilize DGAs, we will phase in DNS signatures as those domains go live (typically a few days before), and then disable them as they get taken down. In the past, once we disabled signatures, we also removed the corresponding entries in PAN-DB. Starting with the most recent InfraGard list (Cryptolocker/GameOverZeus), we started adding all domains at once to PAN-DB, and will keep them categorized as malware until otherwise notified.

As for your list of examples, I checked PAN-DB, and we currently categorize all of them as malware with the exception of the first two. If you have additional examples of URLs from the InfraGard list that is not categorized as malware, please send me a private message and I can check them for you and see what's going on.

Thanks,

Doris

Re: Newly registered domains - how does PANDB classify them?

networkadmin — Fri, 27 Jun 2014 16:01:57 GMT

Hi Doris, thanks for that really detailed reply - appreciate it

I guess I'm trying to understand how the two domains that weren't malware were classified as anything other than malware?

I'm not asking to criticise, I'm genuinely curious as there must be thousands if not more domains registered daily - I'd assumed they'd all go into "unknown" until some manual process happened?

Re: Newly registered domains - how does PANDB classify them?

dyang — Fri, 27 Jun 2014 18:36:47 GMT

Hi networkadmin,

You are correct. By default, any newly registered domain will be "unknown" in PAN-DB until we've taken a look at it - either manually by our analysts/threat team, or via our crawler (triggered on some event). Our threat team took a look at the list you sent, and they are from a non-critical list published by InfraGard recently. As mentioned, most of these have been included in PAN-DB already as "malware", but the two exceptions did not resolve, and thus were not included in PAN-DB.

--Doris

Re: Newly registered domains - how does PANDB classify them?

kam.aujla — Tue, 27 Jul 2021 15:56:56 GMT

does anyone know which version of PAN OS is required to get the "Newly Registered Domains" category?? I'm running version 8.1.15 and I don't see that Category is the list.

Re: Newly registered domains - how does PANDB classify them?

LAYER_8 — Tue, 27 Jul 2021 17:48:50 GMT

That is a feature of PAN-OS 9.0, documented in our new features guide.

Re: Newly registered domains - how does PANDB classify them?

kam.aujla — Tue, 27 Jul 2021 20:17:09 GMT

Awesome thanks so much for the info. I suspected that was the case, as i also have firewalls running the 9.x code and they have that category.