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Using VM firewall as "offline" configuration management for ALL models of PAN devices?

scantwell — Tue, 08 Jan 2013 16:50:02 GMT

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I am pretty sure it can be done (have not tested), but I thought maybe a SE or partner could test and confirm, or provide warnings/pitfalls.

I am thinking that if I offloaded a copy of a customer's FW, for archival purposes and then needed to make changes, when I am not at the customer site, that I could just load their configuration into my blank VM version of the PA FW, and then "see" their configuration in the UI, all rules, policies, etc.

I could make changes to the offline version, on behalf of my customer, and then either commit it when I am onsite, or perhaps securely send the configuration to them, and they could load it.

I am sure there are a lot of holes in this concept/thought. I am just thinking that perhaps the VM version of the FW could a stepping stone to a remote/offline configuration utility application, which a partner/SE could pre-configure a customer's FW before going onsite (or even before a demo). Imagine the amount of time savings this could be.

Again, I am not sure if the VM could emulate a all hardware platforms, but I wanted to get a response from the community, and if there was enough support, maybe Palo Alto Networks would consider this.

Please provide your feedback.

Re: Using VM firewall as "offline" configuration management for ALL models of PAN devices?

sdurga — Tue, 08 Jan 2013 17:50:11 GMT

I do not think you can simulate any hardware platforms with a VM firewall. Vm-firewall does not implement all the features supported by all the platforms. For example HA; VM does not support Active/Active HA. So loading an Active/Active config from a 5000 platform on to VM firewall not sure what will be the result.

Sandeep T

Re: Using VM firewall as "offline" configuration management for ALL models of PAN devices?

scantwell — Tue, 08 Jan 2013 18:02:35 GMT

Agreed and thanks for the fast response. That is why I was bringing it to the Community. I am wondering just how much could be possibly be configured.

We know HA would not work, Aggregrate Ports would not work.

What other items would not work?

I bet a PA200 could be configured and its config imported into a VM FW.

Need lots of response and we can then generate a working list of what CAN/CANT be done.

Re: Using VM firewall as "offline" configuration management for ALL models of PAN devices?

jvalentine — Tue, 08 Jan 2013 18:19:45 GMT

Firewall features not available in VM Series Firewall as of 5.0:

- Jumbo Frames

- Link Aggregation

- A/A High Availability

- A/P High Availability (with session Sync)

One quick note, the VM Series supports HA-Lite (A/P w/o session sync) just like the PA200.

Some other things to keep in mind: The VM Series firewall supports 10 Ethernet interfaces (one of them reserved for management), and no dedicated "HA" ports. To move configs between VM Series & hardware devices, be sure that the only interfaces referenced are ethernet1/1 to ethernet1/9, along with the management port. This means if you plan on exporting to a PA200, only use ports e1/1 to e1/4 in the VM Series. And if you plan on exporting to a PA5020, you'll only be able to stage/configure ports e1/1 to e1/9 on the VM Series and any other interface configuration will have to be done on the PA5020 "after-the-fact". This is no different than if you used a PA200 to stage a config for a PA5060.

Finally, since the VM Series is supported starting with 5.0, all configs created/modified by the VM Series will be in the 5.0 format. This will likely cause issues if you try to import one of these configs into a hardware device running a previous version of PAN-OS (4.0.x, 4.1.x, etc.). This is no different than if you were to stage a config on a hardware device running 5.0 and attempt to import on a similar hardware device running 4.1.

All-in-all, I am quite impressed with the VM Series. Other than the few features that are not supported, it is a full implementation of PAN-OS.

Re: Using VM firewall as "offline" configuration management for ALL models of PAN devices?

mikand — Tue, 08 Jan 2013 18:29:53 GMT

However shouldnt it work if you just copy the <rulebase> ... </rulebase> stuff?

I mean:

1) Open the archived config in your VM and make the changes.

2) Save the config and export it (lets call it modified.xml).

3) Open modified.xml in a texteditor and copy the stuff in between <rulebase> ... </rulebase> and insert that into a copy of the archived config in 1) above.

And perhaps other xml-blocks aswell (like application-groups etc).

Re: Using VM firewall as "offline" configuration management for ALL models of PAN devices?

MinhTuan — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 00:45:32 GMT

Sorry, but i have a question . How can it get VM-Series Firewall , just like ISO file or somthing like that in order to simulate PANOS . My company is partner of Palo Anto. Thank for helping me.

Re: Using VM firewall as "offline" configuration management for ALL models of PAN devices?

scantwell — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 01:05:25 GMT

Minh, You would need to purchase the VM firewall, just like any other piece of hardware/software. Please have your company submit a purchase order through whatever normal process they would to purchase the VM firewall. You would not want to download the FW without having a license or support attached to it. Steve