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    <title>topic Re: Can OSPF run without a &amp;quot;true&amp;quot; area 0 in General Topics</title>
    <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/can-ospf-run-without-a-quot-true-quot-area-0/m-p/175762#M55045</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Your solution to put all the tunnel interfaces into area 0 for the interconnections could potentially work. &amp;nbsp;You do want to be careful then that area zero is able to connect to and see all other areas and there are no isolated area 0 interfaces because of your topology. &amp;nbsp;Typically as you noted, we have a hub site that is in area 0 with all the tunnels then connected there to insure area 0 integrity.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The other option is to just put everything into area 0. &amp;nbsp;If you have less than 50 sites there should be no problem with the database size or the ability of the devices to keep track of updates. &amp;nbsp;This would be simpliest if the site count and number of routes can be handled.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2017 13:59:49 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>pulukas</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2017-09-09T13:59:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Can OSPF run without a "true" area 0</title>
      <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/can-ospf-run-without-a-quot-true-quot-area-0/m-p/168132#M53617</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I've started working for a new company who uses only static routing. We just turned up a second ISP at one site, but I noticed an issue with failover which is expected. When ISP 1 fails, local traffic at the site routes out ISP 2, but site to site traffic doesn't failover because of the metrics on the site-to-site VPNs at the other sites.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;At my last job we used OSPF routing, so I didn't have these issues. My problem here is that we aren't really hub and spoke to a data center, more so just spokes interconnecting sites with VPNs for communication between the sites when needed. Our traffic is mainly internet traffic.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Since we don't really have an area 0 to pass through, can I instead put each site network, for example 192.168.1.0, area 1,&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;192.168.2.0, area 2,&amp;nbsp;192.168.3.0, area 3 etc.. and have the tunnel interfaces tunnel.1, tunnel.2 tunnel.3 in area 0. Sort of the idea placing everything physical in a site based area, but the interconnecting tunnel interfaces in area 0.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;It's a strange idea/concept, but I'm not sure how else to achieve separate areas. I could put everything in big area, but I feel like that's worse and less flexible for down the road where we might have a daca center with centralized resources.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I also found this option below, but it'll be a lot of administrative overhead to set up:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/Configuration-Articles/How-to-Configure-a-Palo-Alto-Networks-Firewall-with-Dual-ISPs/ta-p/59774" target="_blank"&gt;https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/Configuration-Articles/How-to-Configure-a-Palo-Alto-Networks-Firewall-with-Dual-ISPs/ta-p/59774&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Would love to hear some feedback and suggestions!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:24:19 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>mcharette</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-07-25T16:24:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Can OSPF run without a "true" area 0</title>
      <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/can-ospf-run-without-a-quot-true-quot-area-0/m-p/175762#M55045</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Your solution to put all the tunnel interfaces into area 0 for the interconnections could potentially work. &amp;nbsp;You do want to be careful then that area zero is able to connect to and see all other areas and there are no isolated area 0 interfaces because of your topology. &amp;nbsp;Typically as you noted, we have a hub site that is in area 0 with all the tunnels then connected there to insure area 0 integrity.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The other option is to just put everything into area 0. &amp;nbsp;If you have less than 50 sites there should be no problem with the database size or the ability of the devices to keep track of updates. &amp;nbsp;This would be simpliest if the site count and number of routes can be handled.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2017 13:59:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/can-ospf-run-without-a-quot-true-quot-area-0/m-p/175762#M55045</guid>
      <dc:creator>pulukas</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-09-09T13:59:49Z</dc:date>
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