topic Re: PA 500 home use in General Topics

PA 500 home use

tmolleck — Sat, 22 Jun 2019 01:54:53 GMT

My employer is starting to use PAs, and as a networking person I want to get much more comfortable with them, I wanted to buy an small one off ebay to use as my home router. I won't need global protect, OR wildfire as I just want to run the PA as a router in a "less critical" environment. If I do get one off ebay are there license fees that I'm going to be surprised by or those all additionals rather than required?

Re: PA 500 home use

MP18 — Sat, 22 Jun 2019 02:39:12 GMT

Yes with PA all the licenses are required.

But you can work without the licenses also

You can buy one line 500 or PA 220.

PA 220 does support PAN OS 9.0

Re: PA 500 home use

Remo — Sat, 22 Jun 2019 11:55:16 GMT

Hi @tmolleck

You don't need to buy the licenses if you dont use them. All you need is supportsubscriptionto be able to update the firewall.

Anyway don't make the mistake and buy a PA-500. This one is end of sale and will not support anything newer than PAN-OS 8.1. In addition you cannot buy a support subscription for this one except there is still a not expired one on the box, so there might be a chance to renew it. I strongly recommend to buy a PA-220. If you buy that one as LAB/not-for-resale firewall it will cost almost nothing and you will have already all licenses included - just in case you need them once.

Re: PA 500 home use

ChrisThornton — Sun, 23 Jun 2019 17:13:04 GMT

I agree with @Remo PA-500's are 8 port PA-200's and you do not what to learn on these devices. they are miserable, commits take forever. a PA-220 is slow compared to a PA-5250. but it's a lot faster than a PA-500/200.

I have 2 PA-220's in HA at my house.

What I did for my org was to purchase PA-220-Lab units for the employees to take home and use. I think only 5 of 20 are actively used. They are half the price of a normal PA-220 and come with all the licenses. You do have to renew the licenses but that is only a fraction of the cost.

I think you can buy lab units from Palo alto re-sellers. if your company will not support the cost of this, You could personally contract your company reseller and ask them if you can purchase a lab unit. Everyone has different prices.

looks like CDW will sell you one. I would think that the base price listed (no warranty) still covers the normal 1-year subscription and Palo alto support for hardware\software. you should call CDW and see what their warranty covers. if the unit has Palo Alto support for 1 year, don't buy the CDW warranty.

CDW link

Re: PA 500 home use

OtakarKlier — Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:34:54 GMT

Hello,

If the company you work for already has a relationship with Palo Alto, you can buy a LAB unit for your house at a fraction of hte cost and it comes fully licensed. I would stay away from ebay for this as there could be lots of licensing issues. The PA220 lab is just under $500.

Cheers!

Re: PA 500 home use

S.Cantwell — Mon, 24 Jun 2019 20:45:36 GMT

Maybe a different recommendation is to download a VM version of a PANW FW, and use it like a "lab in a box", with VMWare Player.

Gets you used to the gui, basic policies, etc. BUT... still unlicensed, you will not get many sessions (like only 10 or so), but the point to become familar with the FW GUI. Again, just a 2cent idea. 😛

Re: PA 500 home use

RobinClayton — Tue, 25 Jun 2019 07:58:00 GMT

$500 seems a bit overkill for home use to me.

We do have a VM Lab unit in the office that we can play with, but once you have spent a couple of hours with a PA your more or less done with learning the basics.

Rob