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Upgrade/Move from Panorama Legacy mode to Panorama mode

DanielBostock — Tue, 19 Nov 2019 05:22:52 GMT

Hi,

Currently Panorama is in Legacy mode, there 5 devices connected to it, 2 in 2 data centres, one at an office. Templates are configured and synced across devices including device specific templates (like configs and other device management configs). However due to the logging limitations we need to change to Panorama mode. The other temporary alternative of course is to upgrade the disk to 8TB but there is some work to doing this to and I am just thinking it might be better to just bite the bullet and move out of legacy even if it is slightly harder work than resizing the disk.

I am trying to find Palo documentation on how to do this or some documentation on the path in which to take to do this but I have not found any. If anyone knows the possible routes to take to do this kind of change or documentation/posts where it has been described I would be very grateful to know about them.

Thanks,

Re: Upgrade/Move from Panorama Legacy mode to Panorama mode

FarzanaMustafa — Tue, 19 Nov 2019 05:24:37 GMT

Hi @DanielBostock

Converting a VM to “Panorama” mode mandates meeting the minimum resource requirements:

RAM: 16 GB
Cores: 8
Cloning disk: 81 GB
Storage disks: 2 TB.

Failure to meet this requirement prevents from changing the mode from “legacy” to “panorama”, and the VM defaults to “legacy” mode operation.

Below are the steps we followed to convert our Panorama 8.0.14 from “legacy” mode to “panorama” mode using only the system disk and no virtual logging disk.

Step 1: Issue CLI command (request system system-mode panorama) - This will advise new requirements for Memory, vCPU’s, system disk size.
Step2: Power off Panorama VM.
Step3: Edit Settings and increase memory/vCPU and attach new system disk(SCSI Virtual Device Node).
Step4: Power on Panorama VM.
Step5: Issue CLI command (request system clone-system-disk target sdb).
Step6: Power off Panorama VM.
Step7: Edit Settings and remove original system disk.
Step8: Select the new system disk (Virtual Device Node to SCSI (0:0)).
Step9: Power on Panorama VM.
Step10: Issue CLI command (request system system-mode panorama).

Additional reference link:
https://www.paloaltonetworks.com/documentation/80/panorama/panorama_adminguide/set-up-panorama/set-up-the-panorama-virtual-appliance/set-up-the-panorama-virtual-appliance-with-local-log-collector
https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/General-Topics/Panorama-VM-upgrade-to-PANOS-8-0-x-amp-switch-mode-to-Panorama/m-p/199909/thread-id/59181

Re: Upgrade/Move from Panorama Legacy mode to Panorama mode

DanielBostock — Tue, 19 Nov 2019 05:49:47 GMT

Hey Farzana!

Mate, thanks for jumping in here to help.

I see this is for version 8.0,xx , however we are currently running on 9.0.4 with Panorama. Also to confirm will there be any loss of data following this mode change process such as logging or templates?

Thanks,

Re: Upgrade/Move from Panorama Legacy mode to Panorama mode

FarzanaMustafa — Tue, 27 Oct 2020 20:04:27 GMT

No problem @DanielBostock

It should work for that version as well.

There were some issues we faced with latency in logging, Or Panorama being sluggish during the upgrade.

In Legacy mode, panorama VM itself cannot act as a local log collector in a collector group.
Panorama it can be configured to manage other dedicated log collectors (M series) in a collector group.and you need to make sure if proper resources are defined based on the number of firewalls being managed.

You can use legacy mode for managing firewalls from panorama. But On panorama mode receiving the log is faster than legacy mode. On legacy mode they have some latency in logging on panorama.

> The major difference in these modes is that Panorama supports a local log collector with 1 to 12 virtual disks. More details here: https://docs.paloaltonetworks.com/panorama/9-0/panorama-admin/panorama-overview/panorama-models.html#id6a2d6388-f727-45aa-ae7e-ef7599379871

If you want to convert from legacy mode to panorama mode then please follow below document
https://docs.paloaltonetworks.com/panorama/9-0/panorama-admin/set-up-panorama/set-up-the-panorama-virtual-appliance/set-up-the-panorama-virtual-appliance-as-a-log-collector.html#id17C8C0Z0H2M

Re: Upgrade/Move from Panorama Legacy mode to Panorama mode

DanielBostock — Tue, 19 Nov 2019 06:12:33 GMT

@FarzanaMustafa - Thanks greatly for all this info mate, I will get onto it this week and do all the necessary steps as per documentation.

Re: Upgrade/Move from Panorama Legacy mode to Panorama mode

DanielBostock — Tue, 19 Nov 2019 06:44:12 GMT

@FarzanaMustafa

If you want to convert from legacy mode to panorama mode then please follow below document
https://www.paloaltonetworks.com/documentation/80/panorama/panorama_adminguide/set-up-panorama/set-up-the-panorama-virtual-appliance/set-up-the-panorama-virtual-appliance-with-local-log-collector

Hey mate,

This link does not take me to the document, it potentially has been removed, deprecated or maybe renamed?

Thanks,

Re: Upgrade/Move from Panorama Legacy mode to Panorama mode

FarzanaMustafa — Tue, 19 Nov 2019 23:41:26 GMT

Sorry @DanielBostock they were from 8.0 so not there anymore.

Below are the active links.

https://docs.paloaltonetworks.com/panorama/8-1/panorama-admin/set-up-panorama/set-up-the-panorama-virtual-appliance/set-up-the-panorama-virtual-appliance-as-a-log-collector

https://docs.paloaltonetworks.com/panorama/9-0/panorama-admin/panorama-overview/panorama-models

Re: Upgrade/Move from Panorama Legacy mode to Panorama mode

DanielBostock — Tue, 19 Nov 2019 23:42:41 GMT

@FarzanaMustafa - love ya work mate, thanks heaps again!

Re: Upgrade/Move from Panorama Legacy mode to Panorama mode

DanielBostock — Wed, 20 Nov 2019 23:56:05 GMT

Hey @FarzanaMustafa - just double checking the document in the first link thats the process for changing Panorama to Log Collector mode. Is there a guide on switching it to Panorama Mode like the older legacy one for 8.0?

Also it would be helpful to know what are the roll back options or ways to ensure a roll back if we completely balls up the upgrade to Panorama mode.

Re: Upgrade/Move from Panorama Legacy mode to Panorama mode

FarzanaMustafa — Thu, 21 Nov 2019 00:33:39 GMT

Hi @DanielBostock

These two commands will help.

from Legacy mode to Panorama mode.
> request system system-mode panorama

from Panorama mode to Legacy mode.
> request system system-mode legacy

Re: Upgrade/Move from Panorama Legacy mode to Panorama mode

spandor — Thu, 18 Mar 2021 11:56:58 GMT

@FarzanaMustafa

quick question, when you change an active M500 in panorama mode which has a pair of external LC's configured and ALL firewalls send to those LC's (they are 3 Collector groups configured) and you hit the command - request system system-mode management-only will it then stop the Panorama in MGMT mode to stop retrieving logs from the LC to view them in the monitor tab?