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User-ID not mapping all traffic

raji_toor — Mon, 01 Jun 2020 21:44:23 GMT

Why the user-id is missing for some traffic. This also causes issue with policies using user-id.

Below traffic log is for same user/zone/ip

Re: User-ID not mapping all traffic

staustin — Mon, 01 Jun 2020 22:09:14 GMT

How is your User-ID mapping implementation configured?

Re: User-ID not mapping all traffic

raji_toor — Tue, 02 Jun 2020 04:16:08 GMT

@staustin We have agent-less configuration to pull user-ID's from domain controllers

Re: User-ID not mapping all traffic

raji_toor — Tue, 02 Jun 2020 22:27:50 GMT

Can anyone suggest what the issue might be.

Re: User-ID not mapping all traffic

Mick_Ball — Wed, 03 Jun 2020 10:59:57 GMT

You might have the timeout set too low. Default is 45 mins. I have mine set to 24 hours. Some suggest 8 is OK but it depends on domain activity.

Re: User-ID not mapping all traffic

raji_toor — Wed, 03 Jun 2020 18:53:07 GMT

@Mick_Ball We have it for 15 hours and even if it was 45mins that would not explain why within matter of minutes there is username associated for some traffic while not for other.

Re: User-ID not mapping all traffic

Mick_Ball — Wed, 03 Jun 2020 19:25:52 GMT

Yes i can now see that in your original post. How many servers are you monitoring. Could it be that one of them is not reading the security logs correctly and overwriting the correct information.

Re: User-ID not mapping all traffic

OtakarKlier — Wed, 03 Jun 2020 20:50:19 GMT

Hello,

If you are using exchange, I would suggest checking against it. The reason is that when Outlook is open it is authenticating very frequently.

Regards,

Re: User-ID not mapping all traffic

raji_toor — Thu, 04 Jun 2020 03:06:42 GMT

@Mick_Ball and @OtakarKlier Thanks for suggestions. But how would i check/determine if some server is not reading security logs correctly. We are using 3 of them. Also there is no exchange server, its O365 that we have.

I did install agent on 1 of them and it seems better, but i will monitor and update

Re: User-ID not mapping all traffic

Mick_Ball — Thu, 04 Jun 2020 05:00:37 GMT

To test this i would remove 2 servers from user id and see what happens, then add a second, monitor, then add the third.... it should not cause any issues as you seem not to be using id’s for policies.

Re: User-ID not mapping all traffic

Arjang999 — Thu, 05 Nov 2020 18:40:10 GMT

this has become some serious issues in my environment. I have 20 firewalls and 10 ipsec site to site.

the recent issue I just realized is that if a user on GP crossing ipsec tunnel from PA to PA, the user id will be dropped at the destination,

and now all the rules will be denying because it can not see the username.

this is very unstable, since 2017, I have been opening tickets 2~3 times a year and still no solid solution.

Re: User-ID not mapping all traffic

staustin — Thu, 05 Nov 2020 20:01:09 GMT

Some critical information is missing from your explanation but I will assuming your setup is the following:

1. UserA connects via GP to FirewallA

2. UserA then accesses a resource behind FirewallB

3. FirewallB has an ipsec s2s tunnel to FirewallA and this is how GP users are reaching the resource behind FirewallB

If the above is true, then FirewallB needs to be receiving redistributed GP mappings from FirewallA. FirewallB doesn't magically know about the ip to user mapping of UserA that is known to FirewallA. FirewallB must be told wha the ip to user mapping is by configuring user-id redistribution.

Re: User-ID not mapping all traffic

Arjang999 — Thu, 05 Nov 2020 20:24:46 GMT

you are right on the setup.

and I have user identification enabled on the tunnel ZONEs, and both firewall A and B are pointed 4 AD servers for monitoring and user id mapping.

but Im guessing I would need the redistribution ?

https://docs.paloaltonetworks.com/panorama/8-1/panorama-admin/panorama-overview/user-id-redistribution-using-panorama.html

thanks for your reply.

Re: User-ID not mapping all traffic

staustin — Thu, 05 Nov 2020 20:26:38 GMT

Your guess is correct, you do need user identification, but you also need redistribution. User identification turns on the ability to learn mappings and redistribution actually sends the mapping from FirewallA to FIrewallB.