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    <title>topic Re: Application Aged out in General Topics</title>
    <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/application-aged-out/m-p/374333#M89043</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;can you provide a little more context, is the session failing?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;an "aged-out" session end reason means both sides stopped communication without there having been a FIN or a RST, but it's not necessarily a problem as there was a handshake and some communication (else there would have been an application "incomplete")&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;if the application is indeed showing up as incomplete, it means the TCP handshake is not being completed (no syn-ack most likely)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;take a look at the packets received/packets sent to get an indication if there's communication and if it's an expected amount or not&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2020 22:19:28 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>reaper</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-12-14T22:19:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Application Aged out</title>
      <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/application-aged-out/m-p/374248#M89033</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey guys can anyone provide&amp;nbsp; a little insight&amp;nbsp; I set up action to allow an outbound rule for a group&amp;nbsp; but I am getting an error of an "aged-out"&amp;nbsp; and its coming from port 443. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2020 17:21:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/application-aged-out/m-p/374248#M89033</guid>
      <dc:creator>LaportePitts</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-12-14T17:21:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Application Aged out</title>
      <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/application-aged-out/m-p/374333#M89043</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;can you provide a little more context, is the session failing?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;an "aged-out" session end reason means both sides stopped communication without there having been a FIN or a RST, but it's not necessarily a problem as there was a handshake and some communication (else there would have been an application "incomplete")&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;if the application is indeed showing up as incomplete, it means the TCP handshake is not being completed (no syn-ack most likely)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;take a look at the packets received/packets sent to get an indication if there's communication and if it's an expected amount or not&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2020 22:19:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/application-aged-out/m-p/374333#M89043</guid>
      <dc:creator>reaper</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-12-14T22:19:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Application Aged out</title>
      <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/application-aged-out/m-p/374334#M89044</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes the session is failing but its a mystery as into why this is happening its "aged out" this was the message I received&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;TABLE width="0"&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="109"&gt;&lt;P&gt;Session ID&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="234"&gt;&lt;P&gt;127785&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="109"&gt;&lt;P&gt;Action&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="234"&gt;&lt;P&gt;allow&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;TABLE width="0"&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="109"&gt;&lt;P&gt;Action Source&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="234"&gt;&lt;P&gt;from-policy&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="109"&gt;&lt;P&gt;Application&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="234"&gt;&lt;P&gt;incomplete&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;TABLE width="0"&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="109"&gt;&lt;P&gt;Rule&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="234"&gt;&lt;P&gt;Clearspan outbound&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="109"&gt;&lt;P&gt;Rule UUID&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="234"&gt;&lt;P&gt;aa3c90d3-5190-49da-9746-d60ba6cc7332&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;TABLE width="0"&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="109"&gt;&lt;P&gt;Session End Reason&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="234"&gt;&lt;P&gt;aged-out&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="109"&gt;&lt;P&gt;Category&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="234"&gt;&lt;P&gt;any&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;TABLE width="0"&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="109"&gt;&lt;P&gt;Device SN&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="234"&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="109"&gt;&lt;P&gt;IP Protocol&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="234"&gt;&lt;P&gt;tcp&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;TABLE width="0"&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="109"&gt;&lt;P&gt;Log Action&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="234"&gt;&lt;P&gt;default&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2020 22:24:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/application-aged-out/m-p/374334#M89044</guid>
      <dc:creator>LaportePitts</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-12-14T22:24:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Application Aged out</title>
      <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/application-aged-out/m-p/374336#M89046</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;you can either find the log entry and click the little magnifying glass to the far-left of the log entry to get more details, or run this command from CLI:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;show session ID 127785&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;that will pop up more details about the session. you can look at the number of packets and bytes sent/received which will tell you what went on&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;if you see 0 packets/bytes received, the server side simply didn't answer, if there's 1 packet received, the server completed the handshake but then stopped nswering after that&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;in both cases, something is up on the server side&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;next you will want to check if there were other sessions that succeeded, and how long ago. if theres a mix of succeeded and failed sessions, the server may be overloaded/throttled, if there's no succeeded sessions for a while, the server may be down&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;see if anything changed: was routing changed, or NAT since the connection started failing&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;hope this helps&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2020 22:30:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/application-aged-out/m-p/374336#M89046</guid>
      <dc:creator>reaper</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-12-14T22:30:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Application Aged out</title>
      <link>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/application-aged-out/m-p/374337#M89047</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks a lot it does will look into this further... and keep you guys posted just incase any one else runs into this problem&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2020 22:51:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/application-aged-out/m-p/374337#M89047</guid>
      <dc:creator>LaportePitts</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-12-14T22:51:36Z</dc:date>
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