Active/Active ECMP

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L4 Transporter

Re: Active/Active ECMP

ECMP should still work as long as you remove HSRP regardless of router ID for "Equal Cost Paths" only.

L3 Networker

Re: Active/Active ECMP

Not running active/active for increase performance because I know you get maybe 20% on that. I am using it because I have two active core switches and it becomes a load share game. Do ditch HSRP and use what for LAN side? thats the real challenge. 

 

 

L4 Transporter

Re: Active/Active ECMP

MC-LAG?  Not sure the new 9500s support that.  Are you avoiding stacking them for any specific reason?

L3 Networker

Re: Active/Active ECMP

Cat9500s not stacked, no VSS, no Nexus core running active/active HSRP. So doesnt qualify. 

L3 Networker

Re: Active/Active ECMP

Now, I am fantasizing here, but I thought about running HSRP egress side to the palos and running palos with floating IP (essentially vrrp)....

L4 Transporter

Re: Active/Active ECMP

Be aware, there are some pretty specific restrictions/caveats with floating IPs especially when it comes to NAT.  If you don't have asynchronous routing and you aren't utilizing ECMP, Active/Passive is the way to go.

L3 Networker

Re: Active/Active ECMP

Avoid the stacking because in-service upgrades give me PTSD. No NAT because they are Core Firewalls. Would like to use ECMP but it seems to be a headache. And even with Active/Passive and HSRP there is still the issue that there is a 50 percent chance that the active firewall will send the return traffic to the standby HSRP node. 

L7 Applicator

Re: Active/Active ECMP

@Stevenjwilliams83,

I'm lost on why you think you are going to hit the standby HSRP node? HSRP is going to give you an address that you can target as your next-hop address for routing. If you want to use HSRP, then you remove ECMP. If you want to use ECMP, then you remove HSRP. 

L4 Transporter

Re: Active/Active ECMP

Yes, yes, and double yes.

 

Or you could stack your switches downstream from the 9500s and push Layer 3 out toward the access layer.  Then you would pretty much be using them as routers and you can ECMP all day long.

L3 Networker

Re: Active/Active ECMP

How do you figure? If each palo is learning each HSRP group VLAN via a routing protocol and both core switches own an SVI for that vlan, network is now connected. So OSPF will see the same subnet for a single vlan on each core switch as connected and based on ecmp will have a 50/50 shot of sending it the right node. 

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