Application vs Service? Specific to traffic being classified as APPs using the same ports

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Application vs Service? Specific to traffic being classified as APPs using the same ports

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I use both but running into an issue with Lab specific traffic where I will allow a list of applications with service set to ANY but the PAN classifies some 443 traffic as (for example) 'windows push notification' or 'soap' but I am not allowing either of those APPs so it drops it. I am allowing web-browsing and windows push/soap both use tcp/443 so it seems to be classifying 443 traffic as any application that may or may not use tcp/443. How do I get around having to allow every application that may or may not use 80/443 or any other ports for that matter?  I tried setting it to application-default but it still seems to be happening.   Not doing any SSL decryption.  


What is odd is this seems to be a new problem for me since going to 8.1 from 8.0 for the longest time. Not sure I have run into this before and presently managed roughly 10 HA pairs of PANs across our environment.




I believe (respectfully) that you are thinking curl should have been an app-id (or something).


Your original comment was

For instance users were trying to curl and the PAN was classifying that as 'google-base' 


 cURL is a tool to transfer data from or to a server, and the pattern that was seen was to the host-header of

Therefore, what the person is doing, is google-base.


If someone wanted to curl to,. you would need to allow facebook-base

If someone wanted to curl to, you would need to allow yahoo-base.

Same if someone wanted to curl to your sharepoint site, you would allow sharepoint, probably ssl, and additional app-id defined apps.


I know you understand it, so I am not sure we can answer anymore to the degree you are looking for.




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Yeah pretty much.  


I think this thread has run its course, thanks everyone for the insight.  

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