The PAN docs and the Panorama GUI 'panorama -templates' page all seem to imply the stack is a container for a hirearchical list of templates. So that only the templates contain configurations items. At the 8.1.4 Panorama upgrade _mig template stacks are automatically created from existing templates. If this is so, then after teh upgrade I would expect, when amending a config setting the pull down menu on the GUI 'templates-network' should logically still only show templates. ( not template stacks ) Upon upgrade, the GUI top blue bar is not renamed 'template stack'. It appears to offer both the original templates and the new _mig 'template stacks'. Then the config items below, can 'belong' to the original template or if edited since, may 'belong' to the new _mig template stack. This is very confusing, but perhaps points to a subtlety of understanding I am missing. To my mind and a clear distinction in the gui should be made. Templates for config items and then the 'template stack' container being applied to the associated device. I assume other admins have been through this migration pain and can enlighten me on using the seemingly confused Panorama GUI after the 8.14 upgrade. All comments on the now mandatory template stacks and how the Panorama GUI should be interpreted very much appreciated. Lee
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