In this episode, host David Moulton speaks with Joey Smith, Vice President & Chief Information Security Officer at Schnuck Markets. Joey brings experience from leading incident response and forensics at MasterCard to spearheading risk-based security and cloud transformation in retail. Together we explore how today’s CISOs rethink risk, measurement, and leadership in a threat landscape reshaped by AI, compliance expectations, and fast-moving innovation.
We also revisit a key theme from our earlier episode, Human in the Loop for AI Security—how security leaders must take the wheel when it comes to embedding secure design into AI initiatives before they scale too fast, too soon. Joey’s perspective reinforces the need to lead AI adoption with risk clarity, not just curiosity.
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